Comments on: Still trapped in Model Space? http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/still-trapped-in-model-space/ Practical, proven insight into CADD Management from Mark W. Kiker Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:07:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David Anderson http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/still-trapped-in-model-space/comment-page-1/#comment-8683 David Anderson Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:17:56 +0000 http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/16/still-trapped-in-model-space/#comment-8683 I need Paper Space for Dummies. I have been using autocad for 15 years and never used paper space. I need to learn paper space but where? thanks I need Paper Space for Dummies. I have been using autocad for 15 years and never used paper space.
I need to learn paper space but where?

thanks

]]> By: Shawn http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/still-trapped-in-model-space/comment-page-1/#comment-8003 Shawn Thu, 07 May 2009 20:08:44 +0000 http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/16/still-trapped-in-model-space/#comment-8003 I don't understand how you cannot understand MS/PS. Its easy and makes complete sense. MS is where you draw, to scale. PS is where your title block is located and where you set the certain scale for that drawings you made in MS. Its simple I don’t understand how you cannot understand MS/PS. Its easy and makes complete sense. MS is where you draw, to scale. PS is where your title block is located and where you set the certain scale for that drawings you made in MS. Its simple

]]> By: peter http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/still-trapped-in-model-space/comment-page-1/#comment-7681 peter Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:53:15 +0000 http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/16/still-trapped-in-model-space/#comment-7681 PS in Autocad was very ill-conceived and designed. I have heard a thousand different explanations of what it is and how it works. The fact that there are so many different explanations is testimony to the fact that it was poorly designed and implemented by Autodesk. It should be simple. It should be intuitive. It should need little or no explanations. PS in Autocad was very ill-conceived and designed. I have heard a thousand different explanations of what it is and how it works. The fact that there are so many different explanations is testimony to the fact that it was poorly designed and implemented by Autodesk.

It should be simple. It should be intuitive. It should need little or no explanations.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/still-trapped-in-model-space/comment-page-1/#comment-162 Anonymous Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:26:00 +0000 http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/16/still-trapped-in-model-space/#comment-162 I have been trying to teach myself AutoCAD for one and a half year, trying to grasp the basic concept of it.<br/><br/>60 percent of my time is spent on understanding the concept of model and paper space. Yet, I still don't understand it. I have been trying to teach myself AutoCAD for one and a half year, trying to grasp the basic concept of it.

60 percent of my time is spent on understanding the concept of model and paper space. Yet, I still don’t understand it.

]]> By: Brian Benton http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/still-trapped-in-model-space/comment-page-1/#comment-160 Brian Benton Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:34:00 +0000 http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/16/still-trapped-in-model-space/#comment-160 WOW!! The last comment on this post was over a year and a half ago (give or take.) I came across this post through a Google search for Paper Space in AutoCAD. I am about to conduct a training session for the CAD users in my office about Paper Space. We have made much progress in the use of paper space in the past year, but we still have users that are having difficulty. The biggest complaint that i receive is the ever popular and intuitive "I don't like it."<br/><br/>I hate that complaint. I just don't like it, that's all. Anyway, this post made in May 2005 is still valid today, November 2007!!! Paper space has been around since release 11, and yet it is a concept alien to many users. Paper space is not the only problem spot in CAD. I have trouble getting users to xref files properly!!! How can you xref wrong? Trust me, it can be done.<br/><br/>We will see how this training session goes today. Hopefully i will be able to enlighten some and pull them from the the depths of cad despair and ignorance!! WOW!! The last comment on this post was over a year and a half ago (give or take.) I came across this post through a Google search for Paper Space in AutoCAD. I am about to conduct a training session for the CAD users in my office about Paper Space. We have made much progress in the use of paper space in the past year, but we still have users that are having difficulty. The biggest complaint that i receive is the ever popular and intuitive “I don’t like it.”

I hate that complaint. I just don’t like it, that’s all. Anyway, this post made in May 2005 is still valid today, November 2007!!! Paper space has been around since release 11, and yet it is a concept alien to many users. Paper space is not the only problem spot in CAD. I have trouble getting users to xref files properly!!! How can you xref wrong? Trust me, it can be done.

We will see how this training session goes today. Hopefully i will be able to enlighten some and pull them from the the depths of cad despair and ignorance!!

]]> By: Kitty Drafter http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/still-trapped-in-model-space/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Kitty Drafter Wed, 31 May 2006 03:47:00 +0000 http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/16/still-trapped-in-model-space/#comment-87 As a ten year user of AutoCAD I love PS/MS and teach it to all my new hires. Once they get the analogy of the monitor is the "looking glass" (paper space) and the "real world" (model space) is behind it then everything is soooo much easier. And of course all dimensions should go in MS and all layouts MUST have a scale bar. As a ten year user of AutoCAD I love PS/MS and teach it to all my new hires. Once they get the analogy of the monitor is the “looking glass” (paper space) and the “real world” (model space) is behind it then everything is soooo much easier. And of course all dimensions should go in MS and all layouts MUST have a scale bar.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/still-trapped-in-model-space/comment-page-1/#comment-40 Anonymous Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:51:00 +0000 http://www.caddmanager.com/CMB/2005/05/16/still-trapped-in-model-space/#comment-40 To answer your questions, no we are not a tech planet and yes we are in the new milenium. This does not mean that grandma can use Linux and students can understand professionals. I lay somewhere in between loathing user-friendly and trying to grasp the concept of a tech-based world. As someone who just learned AutoCAd and is treading lightly on unfamiliar ground I was totally dumbfounded when the concept of MS and PS came into play. The first concept I had was.....sooooo paper space lets me zoom in...by making a border around my drawing.... Obviously I have progressed from that first thought and see the vital and necassary use of paper space and the undoubted need for the use of both layouts, but just because you write the words, doesn't mean it's always in the same language. I'm posative that David Frey knows CAD like the back of his hand, but he may not be able to speak newbie language. <br/><br/>Stumbling through a techie world when you're not a techie, sort of makes you feel like an alien at times, but it is definately far from a tech planet we are on. Take heed if you're planning on writing an instuctional book or a lecture. To answer your questions, no we are not a tech planet and yes we are in the new milenium. This does not mean that grandma can use Linux and students can understand professionals. I lay somewhere in between loathing user-friendly and trying to grasp the concept of a tech-based world. As someone who just learned AutoCAd and is treading lightly on unfamiliar ground I was totally dumbfounded when the concept of MS and PS came into play. The first concept I had was…..sooooo paper space lets me zoom in…by making a border around my drawing…. Obviously I have progressed from that first thought and see the vital and necassary use of paper space and the undoubted need for the use of both layouts, but just because you write the words, doesn’t mean it’s always in the same language. I’m posative that David Frey knows CAD like the back of his hand, but he may not be able to speak newbie language.

Stumbling through a techie world when you’re not a techie, sort of makes you feel like an alien at times, but it is definately far from a tech planet we are on. Take heed if you’re planning on writing an instuctional book or a lecture.

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